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Disclosing mental illness is complicated. So much depends on context that the only guides on how to go about disclosure are vague and full of mysterious caveats.
Well, I finally did it. I told my supervisor.
I had been thinking about it for awhile. Last month I hit a particularly bad patch for a week or so. My therapist actually asked if we should think about hospital admission or a leave of absence. He genuinely seemed to be at a loss for what to do with me and I couldn’t reason or decide for myself, so I’ve started working in earnest on a safety plan against future incapacitation.
But what if? I wouldn’t want a call from Mr. Chickadee saying that I’m in the psych ward to be the way that my supervisors found out about my mental illness. It would be better to get up the gumption to let them know sooner rather than later. I don’t want them to think I’m slacking when in reality, I’m unwell and I simply can’t work effectively.
I decided to tell my supervisor – let’s call him Mr. Flycatcher (he picked it, though he doesn’t know it) – just one day before our meeting. It’s the crazy person’s equivalent to coming out, and probably just about as stressful and stigma-laden. I decided I’d tell him the next day, without any real preparation, which would have just made me even more worked up about the whole thing.
The panic started hitting me on the commute Wednesday morning. Worse and worse. Although I felt sure that he would be understanding, I was freaked out. I could hardly work all morning and was grateful to have Ativan on hand before the 1 PM meeting.
We started with the usual pleasantries, he mentioned something about his daughter’s health. That provided a good segue; I said I need to discuss something that’s very hard for me to talk about – and held out my hands to show that they were shaking. He raised an eyebrow, leaned back, and listened.
I’d quickly scratched out a few things to mention, so I started by explaining that although he might not have noticed, my work can be uneven at times, and there’s a reason for it. He said no, he hadn’t noticed, but go ahead. So I launched into my points – starting with my diagnoses, and that I’m in comprehensive treatment and doing fairly well.
I explained that sometimes I’m unable to work at all and other times I’m hyperproductive, with unpredictable rapid cycles as well as seasonal cycles that predictably slow me down. The implications, I explained, include lots of insurance paperwork; 1-4 medical appointments every week; taking a lot of drugs – 5 at the time – and every time they get changed ( about 30 times in the last 2 years) it’s a kick to the brain. I said that I’m working really hard on wellness management, and minimizing stress is critical, but I never really know what to expect.
I started to explain executive dysfunction, and he cut me off – his son has it and really struggles with organization and planning. I was totally taken by surprise, because no one ever knows that. For me, it means that no matter how hard I try, I will always struggle with organization, prioritization, and breaking down tasks into achievable chunks. These were things I’d already told him were hard for me. Now I’ve said why.
Then I awkwardly went into my short list of what he can do to be supportive. Starting with, know that sometimes my performance is not entirely under my control but I’m doing the best I can. Plus things like understanding I may have to leave abruptly, being flexible with expectations, helping me keep the number of projects I’m juggling to a minimum, and assisting with prioritization of projects. That it’s unlikely but possible that my doctor or husband might call in sick for me. Finally, I told him it’s OK to ask me directly if I’m having problems, because asking how I’m doing is not the right question and will get a noncommittal socially acceptable response, no matter how I feel.
I’d exhausted my list of things to say. My face was flushed, hands were still shaking, and stomach was roiling furiously. But Mr. Flycatcher said all of the right things.
He said he completely understands ADD issues due to affected family members. He also said that the President of the Board for our organization is openly ADD and bipolar; apparently he’s had to miss board meetings because he was in hospital at the time. All of the Directors in the organization (which includes Mr. Flycatcher) therefore understand that having mental illnesses doesn’t mean a person can’t be highly intelligent and extremely successful professionally – both prerequisites for board membership.
Having mental illnesses doesn’t mean a person can’t be highly intelligent and extremely successful professionally.
That put me more at ease. Mr. Flycatcher said that he’d never have guessed, although now that I mention it, a lot of details retrospectively make sense (almost everyone says that.) I admitted that I work really hard to make sure people don’t suspect anything, but it’s very difficult and I’m constantly frustrated by ordinary tasks that are a struggle for me.
Then he smiled his kindly smile and said, thanks for telling me, I really appreciate the honesty, and I’ll do my best to be supportive. Only one question – why now? I kind of stumbled over myself, and he said, you feel like you haven’t been keeping up on your work? Yep, that’s it – October and November are hard, so I get behind and have to work even harder to catch up, even though I’m not quite fully functional yet.
And then we moved on to discuss my work progress and what to prioritize for the next week.
In January, I’ll tell my other supervisor when I go out to the Southwest for a workshop. He’s picking me up from the airport and we have around 90 minutes’ drive – plenty of time for discussion. I doubt I’ll be quite as nervous and awkward about it, but still plan on medicating to reduce the inevitable jitters.
After telling Mr. Flycatcher my big ugly secret, I felt so relieved. I hate hiding this from people I care about or work with closely. The experience made me think momentarily about being more open. Maybe putting my real nickname on this blog. Food for thought, but not action – at least not yet – feeling a little too self-conscious, paranoid, and anxious lately.
So I survived Round 1 of disclosure at work, but I know there are many more to come. I hope that as I slowly tell people who matter to me, they will see how much trust and vulnerability it signifies. For a perfectionist like me, it’s excruciating to reveal something so flawed behind the curtains.

Congratulations! You have just done the best thing you could possibly do for your career. If I had done it, I would still be working instead of sitting home on disability. I’m serious. You have just saved your career. Take yourself out for a drink for me, will you? (Mr. Chickadee can come too!)
Thanks – I just have to get the nerve up to tell my next employers right after hiring so that I can get a couple of necessary accommodations, e.g. no teaching evening courses. This practice will doubtless help with that, but still, ugh!
Dee Dee,
My son was diagnosed as bipolar when he was 17; he is now 29. I can truly understand your hesitation; as well as your anxiety related to disclosing your illness. I am currently working on public speaking about the experience as a parent. My favorite saying, ” A Mother is as happy; as her saddest child” has a deep meaning to soul. This journey has not been easy; but God has provided. Be blessed in your journey.
Yes, because I didn’t explain any of this to my employer, I am struggling through many problems of not having a job, and I’m not on disability, had no idea that disability could help me until I am able to find another higher end job with lots of resposibility and explain to my employer with the help of my psychiatrist that i used to have when I had a job with benefits. Thank you for this post, it has definetly helped me to understand my adhd. Really didn’t think it was real I guess. Just thought, well, you know.
Thank you again. I really mean it.
You are not only a great writer, but God is using you to encourage others who have similar struggles. I admire your courage!
Thanks for sharing this! I still haven’t been able to do this in professional settings (only personal ones), and I struggle A LOT with this!
I’ve told almost only friends until now, but I figured it was time to clue in my supervisor.
Reading your post brought tears to my eyes (seriously). You have so much courage. Good for you/congratulations/well done! You’re my idol
Aw, thanks! It was terrifying, but not saying anything clearly had potential to be even more of a problem.
I’m glad to hear it went well!
Thanks!
I like that you’re only at “Round I” and there will be more rounds. Go on Dee Dee!
It’s all a process, isn’t it? Tell supervisor #1, supervisor #2, maybe eventually my family… As my therapist told me long ago, it’s none of their business – unless I decide it is.
Well done you. I’m very proud of you. You are very intelligent and have a hell of a lot going for you. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, A! I knew that it couldn’t turn out too badly, but that doesn’t make it any less of a big deal, does it?
I’m so glad this went well for you, DeeDee.
I know how hard it is to “come out” to one’s superiors, especially when one holds a high-profile position with a lot of responsibility. I had to do this recently myself—my immediate supervisor has known for quite a while, but this time I had to disclose my illness to the corporate nursing director, who was actually very accepting of the situation (although she did tell me that my work habits are consistent with my diagnosis). I’m not particularly thrilled about that, but I can’t disagree with her assessment as my performance pretty much varies with my moods.
I’m sorry you’re struggling right now. Seems like a lot of us are these days, what with the holidays and the bad news coming out of Connecticut and the general unease in the world. Take care.
I’m hoping that by starting to tell people now, by the time I’m really high profile, I won’t have to feel like I’m hiding anything – just being selective about whom I fill in.
I do pretty well at hiding the effects of mood variability, but that’s only the case now that I have very little supervision and can isolate myself when I fall apart. I’ve even taken “sick days” to handle depression in the last few months, which is a huge step forward in terms of acceptance.
DeeDee,
Here’s a preemptive YAY for you…
Le Clown
Why thanks, Le Clown! I blame you and your mad phat connections for increasing visibility for all thine carnies.
I use to battle with staying quiet and then after my last “melt down” I decided to just be open about it. Once I started explaining it to people around me, it began to make sense to them.
Good for you! Take everything in stride and weigh it as it comes. ♥
Thanks! I’m definitely prioritizing who hears what based primarily on how much we interact and how much ability they have to notice my mood swings. Some people really don’t need to know, but when it affects the way you relate to people, that’s the line for me.
DeeDee,
Very nice to meet you. When I stopped hiding my BP disease (years ago) it was very freeing………I am a RN and the parallels for someone living with Diabetes and Hypertension are good to keep on hand for discussing your disease with friends and colleagues.
Ridicuryder
A really important point that I didn’t (but should have!) made is that disclosure makes you eligible for ADA accommodations, which you otherwise can’t request. And you can’t claim ADA eligibility after the fact if anything goes badly.
I agree, it was really freeing. Baby steps…
And don’t worry about misteps……..everyone makes them – even “healthy” folks when they begin a new operating style or position. Be less defined by your disease and you’ll manage it better – not always……certain life stressors for example.
Mark
I don’t know you, but I feel proud. It seems to me your doing right by humanity. Whenever one person speaks up and takes responsibility and helps others understand, it benefits others in a similar situation who are afraid to speak up still.
Why, thanks! It would never have occurred to me to see it as something to be proud about.
One thing that I wish I had mentioned during that conversation is that if he ever had questions about bipolar or ADD, feel free to ask. I’m always happy to share what I know.
I think it is. You were scared and did it anyway. That’s courage.
So well done! And what a great response from your supervisor…way to spread the understanding..
Thanks – it was a better response than I had hoped for, and I was actually pretty sure it would come out fine!
Well done for ‘coming out’. I admire you. Our lovely neighbour is also bipolar but went undiagnosed for years. We heard about her hideous mood swings, difficult relationships with abusive boyfriends, earning and spending money with no control, until she reached an all-time low and moved back home to her despairing, supportive parents. Now on medication, with a good job and routines in place to manage money, she’s in a happy relationship with a lovely young man and looks great. I wish you every success and support along the way.
Thanks so much – bipolar tends to have particularly long delays in diagnosis, 10-15 years is not uncommon. But the vast majority of people with mood disorders that have a strong genetic and biological component can manage really well with appropriate treatment. We’re just not the ones you see on the evening news.
I had to come out to my partner at work one night when I went into a manic episode so bad that I knew I would not even be able to go to sleep that night. I was on call, and I knew that in the event of an emergency, I would be completely unable to function. She was very understanding as her niece is severely bipolar (worse off than me) and she took my call for me that night. I was very lucky.
I have been surprised when telling friends how often they were immediately understanding because someone important to them has bipolar disorder. Fortunately for me, I work independently and most of the time from home, so usually people don’t see me at my worst. The rough patch I mentioned in the post was such that I should have stayed home from the office, and didn’t. It got me thinking that I need to take this more seriously from a medical “I’m sick today” standpoint.
Well done you. Congratulations!
I’m so relieved to hear that your employer is accommodating and understanding! One of our daughters has some similar issues, and I worry every day about her future. We’ve taken appropriate interventions, but every day is a struggle. It’s frustrating as a parent because we see how smart our child is, but then something throws off her game and upends life as we know it.
Thank you for sharing this!
You’re welcome – I think there’s a very positive outlook for most people with this type of illness, if they’re willing to take appropriate measures in terms of treatment and lifestyle.
I did set myself up for this, however – I’m in a line of work that involves a lot of independent, unmonitored work and very flexible timelines. My colleagues are all highly educated and fairly open-minded people, so they are likely to be understanding.
One of the more frustrating points for me is the invalidating response I occasionally get – with just the ADD disclosure – that I’m so successful, I can’t possibly have ADD. I wish that were the case, but it’s not!
Kudos to you for being honest with your boss, but also for sharing here and inspiring others to do the same some day.
Thanks! I’ve seen a lot of horror stories of this sort of thing going badly, and very few that demonstrate that it can go just fine. A lot depends on context; fortunately, I’m nicely set up in that respect – and that’s entirely by plan.
I can imagine how scary and vulnerable a situation like that would be. It’s wonderful that you work at a place where you can be candid and real and where the supervisors are understanding. Kudos to you and to your employers for being open and honest about your situation. It’s this kind of open dialogue that is taking the claws off mental health. Congratulations also on Freshly Pressed! It’s very well-deserved, Dee Dee!
Well, I had him figured for a sympathetic sort, and would have really been surprised to see otherwise.
I now realize that I’ve built my safety net up just a little bit by being vulnerable, paradoxical as it seem!
Well done DeeDee!
I’m so pleased that all worked out for you as it could so easily have gone the opposite direction and so brave for you to contemplate it.
I have no experience of it myself but I’m glad you chose to meet the hurdle head on.
#relief
Way to go!
Thanks! I can imagine there are other situations with similar consequences and concerns, but this is the only one I’ve known.
I respect your courage in coming out and am grateful you experienced kindness and acceptance from your supervisor. As a person who has battled Bipolar for over 20 years, I want to offer a word of encouragement. While it is true the illness can cause many impediments to productivity, seasons of extreme dysfunction generally do pass. I pray you have a long and fruitful career in spite of your illness.
Thanks so much – and you put it so well when you mention gratitude. Being consciously grateful is one of the ways we can improve our emotional resilience. I’m definitely grateful to have a work arrangement that’s been so supportive, in several ways.
I’m really glad he seems to understand. I have OCD, which has been really hard, but to be honest, I’ve always thought Bi-polar disorder is one of the hardest to have, because even when it’s “managed,” it’s never really managed. A lot of bosses might hear a story like yours, act like they’re okay with it, (because it’s technically illegal to fire you,) but then try to find a way to minimize your position. I’m glad your boss seems genuinely concerned.
I was definitely relieved too. Bipolar is hard because a lot of people really don’t understand it, and the media portrayals are way out of whack with reality. It’s also unpredictable, which doesn’t help.
I did mention that I have never been in a psych hospital and don’t have psychotic symptoms, which I think are the big stigma-raisers in the public eyes. Neither should be, but they aren’t well enough understood.
My husband’s ex was Bi-polar and he said she used to go off her meds all the time, because she felt better (and of course, since it was the meds making her feel better, that didn’t work out real well.)
It’s a common issue with people who have bipolar and schizophrenia in particular. I have been tempted myself, but I know what a disaster that can be. Literally every time I feel really stable for a whole month at a time, though, I start thinking that it would be great to just ditch all the meds. Yeah, brilliant, right?
I always remind myself that one of my meds requires a really slow tapering on/off procedure to avoid “adverse reactions” and I don’t want to deal with that again. Plus the more you go on/off meds, the less effective some of them become, especially with “cold turkey” discontinuation – which is most likely to cause nasty side effects as the body readjusts.
I’m happy for you that it went well but I’m not sure it always goes so well. There are so many variables at play. But knowing when to “come out” and having the support of an up to date therapist to work through the inevitable second guessing is key. You’re lucky to have an empathic supervisor and to be in an organization where higher ups have already “come out”. Without those variables in place I think it can be quite a gamble. The extra anxiety brought into play by having zero control over the reactions/interpretations of those who have so much influence over us can be destabililizing especially when you consider that it usually is during the most difficult times that we feel the need to “come out” for support. So, It’s important for people to really do a lot of planning and weighing of all the variables in collaboration with a good therapist with whom one already has an established and high functioning “working alliance”…not something to be done implusively for sure. It sounds like you did it the right way. One really has to consider carefully, in advance, exactly what they expect to gain from “coming out”. I think that there are many situations where it is preferable to keep one’s diagnoses and mental health history private. In your case it sounds like the entire organization benefits because the overall culture of your workplace has been enlightened about mental illness. There are many situations where productivity alone determines someones success or failure in the workplace. An organization will be supportive as long as the person in question demonstrates adaptive coping mechanisms that balance out the overall performance over time. Anyway you look at it it’s an important topic and one that any person with mental illness will deal with at some point in their career so it’s good to have forums like this to talk about it and to share experiences. I certainly wish I’d done some things differently in my own case. Thank you for sharing and good luck in your career.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts – you make a lot of great points. It’s true that this kind of disclosure often doesn’t go well, and it’s due to contextual variables more than anything else. There is a lot at stake; even though it’s illegal to fire someone due to a disability (and bipolar is recognized as such) it happens all the time, and it’s extremely hard to bring suit on.
I did discuss it with my therapist ahead of time, and chose to do it when I was feeling well and most able to manage myself in a difficult situation. For me, it explains my work habits for my supervisors in a way that lets them understand why I work the way I do. Luckily they’re used to “neurodiversity” in an academic/semi-academic context, so I was in a good spot for having this kind of discussion.
You know I think what you did was extremely courageous and I’m glad your boss was so understanding. Many people aren’t but we need more of those who are understanding.
Thanks – I would never have thought of it as brave or courageous – mostly terrifying!
I’m proud of you. And I’m proud of your company being so supportive. I wish more companies would talk about the changes and policies they have about handling sensitive topics like yours. It would give all the other ones a precedent to look at. Congratulations!
Thanks! I work in a semi-academic setting, so “eccentrics” of all flavors are sort of just part of the scenery. It would be much more challenging for me to find such a sympathetic environment elsewhere. Well, not to mention being overqualified for everything except a tiny handful of jobs.
Well done and nicely told, DeeDee. About 15 years ago a co-worker of mine came out bipolar to me and a couple of other people in the office. My first reaction was that it was startlingly bold and brave of her to do so. My second reaction was that I was honored that she trusted and respected us enough to share this sensitive information. And my third reaction was a kind of pleasure and pride in seeing that the people she told seemed to receive the news professionally and humanely, giving it just the right kind and amount of importance. I think it should always be like that, and I hope it turns out to be the same way in the end for you.
Bill, I really admire your insight on that situation. Especially since bipolar was all that much more stigmatized 15 years ago! I wish I could get everyone to walk through your train of thought on that – I think most people don’t get past their own emotional reaction to see what it represents for the person making the disclosure.
DeeDee,
It has been a pleasure reading and I’m really proud of u! =) I experienced the same thing when I disclose to one of my lecturers about my BPD (I’m a medical student!), a bit worse than your situation in fact. I was practically fighting back tears and my lecturer ended up ask me sternly to control myself!! (Haha turned out he was just trying to make me mentally stronger to face this disorder). It takes much courage to do this and I really admired you for being able to share your experience to us! =) Thank you!
That sounds like it was difficult – I don’t think your lecturer’s response was at all appropriate. It’s not his job to try to make you mentally stronger, nor is it his business at all. That kind of reaction shows a complete lack of understanding and empathy – I’m sorry you had to experience it that way. I hope you have a better time with it in the future!
You are brave and inspiring. It’s an honour to share time on this planet with you.
I think I’m going to print that out to look at when I feel like hell.
Which is to say, thanks so much for your kind words. It doesn’t take many to make someone’s day.
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A brave soul indeed, as many people find it very hard to tell anyone that they are suffering or have been suffering in silence, so well done. It’s also a great thing to have employers being supportive and not just thinking that you are some kind of a ‘nutter’. Mental illness does not always mean you can’t work. Many are able to do both, and at times just need some help.
Yes, you survived round 1, and don’t frown upon round 2 until you have completed it. All the best.
Thanks – it definitely wasn’t an easy discussion, but I’m definitely glad to have it done. And I’m glad to see so many people – at least here – understanding that mental illness and working effectively are not mutually exclusive! Sometimes it just takes some creativity to figure out the right conditions and supports to make it work well for everyone.
I’m so proud of you! I recently had to make the decision to put in my two weeks notice due to pressure being put on my supervisor, who is also my aunt, because of my poor performance. I felt I owed her an explanation and thinking back on it had I done what you got the courage to do I may have been able to make things easier on not only myself but my co-workers as well.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I sometimes forget that there are others who are dealing with the same thing or at the very least something similar.
I feel like having the conversation now means that down the road, if I get into really bad shape and need to take a leave, it’s much less likely to be a career-ending issue. Or at least my supervisors will be less concerned that it’s a bigger deal than it actually is.
Unfortunately I keep having to blow all of my regular sick leave on medical appointments…
What a great post!! Thank you and well done!!
I am bipolar as well. Both of my bosses know. They don’t seem to notice the swings. But if they do, they’re really hiding it. Since coming out to them, they haven’t asked questions and have avoided saying anything disdainful about people with mental illness. Just yesterday, in light of the Connecticut shootings, one boss mentioned that people with mental health issues should be covered by medical insurance. He said our system isn’t set up to help people like that. I tried to spark a coversation with him about my own mental health issue, saying I hadn’t had a manic break in years. He kind of shyed away and changed the subject, but I feel he knows where I’m coming from.
I’m much closer with my other boss and we still dance around the issue. He won’t ask me what’s wrong or how I’m feeling. But they don’t doubt my abilities or blame any mistakes on it. They treat me normally. The boss I’m closer with will sometimes tiptoe around gently teasing me for it, which makes me feel even more normal. He’s caught me with my head on my desk and asked if coffee would help. He’s seen me get irritable with him and done absolutely nothing to change the behavior that was irritating me until he was good and ready to make up. ”
I think the stigma is starting to go away. Sadly, probably because so many celebrities are being diagnosed. And because we’re unearthing facts about artists and singers and other people who are widely admired. Maybe a cure will be found one day. Until then, I think people are learning to accept us “crazy people” and work with us. Support us. Treat us the way they’d treat any other person but with the understanding that sometimes we won’t be like any other person.
Everyone reacts to it differently. Some people try to ignore it as soon as they acknowledge I said it. Others ask a lot of questions – genuine curiosity – and I really like the opportunity to fill them in on the reality they don’t see on TV.
And mostly they treat me like they always did, which is what I’d hope for. I’m no different than I was before I said something about my crazies. I’ve just demonstrated that I trust them enough to be honest with my biggest point of vulnerability. Not everyone gets that – but some do.
Bravo for being brave enough to say it. And congratulations on having a supportive person on the other end of the conversation.
Thanks – everyone who has to have this kind of conversation has to weigh the risks and know the audience. Fortunately both factors (and others) were in my favor this time!
this post is amazing and im thankful i read it. so happy it went great for you. I still need to take the courage to tell my boss about my OCDs, he still thinks im just a little weird.
this inspires me to try it.
Take enough time to figure out the right way to talk to your boss, and make sure you stand to gain more than you might lose. If OCD habits just make you seem a little weird to others (as opposed to “call the men in the white coats, she’s going to jump!”) then you probably stand to gain more understanding than likelihood of it hurting you – but you have to evaluate that for yourself.
Good luck!
Don´t give up, you can be proud of what you made already! It´s all about taking step by step. It´s a long road to go but every journey begins with a first step and you have taken it for sure!
Thanks – I sort of thought about it more like getting through what I had to do, but you’re right – I should be proud of it!
Very moving blog – well done!
One thing you may not know…bi-polar CAN be seen in an MRI. Yes, true. Many studies going on. What does this mean? I am not sure yet (I also have bi-polar), but I know one thing…it is not a “mental” illness…it is physical!
To get you started…
http://www.bipolar-lives.com/bipolar-brain-imaging.html
http://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/health/brain-imaging-identifies-bipolar-risk
I’m aware of the most current research; unfortunately, these are small-scale studies and the methods are not yet proven for general diagnostic purposes. I only wish!
Not to mention, getting an MRI isn’t exactly an option for everyone – gene testing is actually far more promising, and there have been some recent findings about potential biomarkers for bipolar. A few more breakthroughs, and we might have much better tools for effective diagnosis and treatment.
Yes and I cannot wait because imagine how different some of our lives can be! Thanks for the reply.
Congratulations!! You inspire me to try and be more open. All the best to you friend.
Thanks, and good luck! Being open is difficult, but there are benefits to it.
Great Post! I’m struggling with coming out at work since I am on medical leave and my doctor has just told them that I cannot work ‘due to his illness’. I feel like this bothers people more since they are curious and feel like I am untrusting. What is worse it that I have to go back to work eventually and face the people I basically told that I didn’t trust them. Ugh! This isn’t easy
Thanks! I agree, that would be a tough situation. It’s actually part of why I decided it was time to disclose – if I did end up having to take a leave, I wouldn’t want it to be one of those awkward generic “chronic condition” sort of explanations that leaves everyone wondering. I know I’d be curious if I were the coworker.
However, I wouldn’t assume that they see it as untrusting. They may well understand your need for privacy from their own experiences or empathy. Despite my curiosity, I’d never press someone to talk about why they needed to take a medical leave; it’s none of my business, to say the least!
Wow, your work is extremely supportive. I’m so glad that they were so understanding, that’s great! Your highlighted quote has such powerful, strong meaning. I’m glad you got Freshly Pressed so that others can revel in your bravery and success. Congratulations.
I feel lucky to be in such a supportive work environment, for sure. I like to demonstrate for people that being successful doesn’t mean a person isn’t struggling.
I’m pretty tickled about being Freshly Pressed too!
You’re such a great example of that, thank you!
Oh I bet!
To be accepted and validated without shame or apology is a beautiful thing.
Absolutely – and not to be taken for granted for even a moment!
Congratulations for being brave and just doing it! It was so amazing, yet emotional to read all about it
Emotional to experience too, and thanks! I think “just doing it” was the only way I was going to get through it. Knowing that the next round is already coming soon is a little frightening in itself.
Wow. Incredible.
It must have been terrifying to share something so intimate with a superior. It sounds like he’s an amazing guy to work with, though, and that is wonderful.
You are strong and brave! And your “ugly secret”? It’s not ugly. It just makes you function differently from some of the people around you. But it also gives you things that those people can never have, be it creativity, the ability to see things with a fresh perspective, etc. That’s not ugly.
I may not know you but I am still proud of you for taking this step.
I consider him a supervisor but also a friend – definitely a great person to have on my side.
I know it’s not “ugly” per se – that’s just me being judgmental. But it feels that way when I’m afraid of how others will react to knowing that about me. You’re absolutely right, though, and my husband would say exactly the same thing – I just function differently, see the world through a different lens, etc. It’s an advantage, yes, but also a burden.
This is excellent
Good for you. I wish I had be brave like you when I was in a work environment.
It has to be the right place, people, and time – sometimes we’re just not in the right spot to open up like that.
You’re absolutely right- I was at the right place and position in my career, but not at the right place in my head. Love your blog!!
Thanks!
It can be hard to be nonjudgmental toward ourselves, but at least we can learn from experience when we try, right?
indeed:)
Bravo, both for your continued fight to be ok and your bravery to talk about it with your boss. I think it’s the smartest thing, both from a practical, emotional and legal perspective. You’re a great role model. Keep writing.
Role model, eh? Yeah, I look forward to the days when I can have my own graduate students and tell them that I’m bipolar, so don’t be surprised if I do X or Y, and call my husband if I do Z. Just matter of fact. Seriously, I can’t wait for the day.
Well done! Your bravery inspires me
Thanks! Being brave doesn’t always feel that way – I guess that’s what makes it brave, right?
I’ve recently been having a rough patch myself that has affected my ability to work to the standards I hold myself to. I decided to tell my boss about being bipolar and it was nervewracking as hell. She ended up being understanding and supportive. It was such a relief. I’m glad this post of yours got Freshly Pressed because you’ve given me hope that I can continue to work and deal with being bipolar. Just reading and knowing there are others out there dealing with similar things makes me feel like I can make it. Thank you. (sorry for rambling).
Part of the challenge is that the standards that I hold myself to are ridiculous, evolved in part through hypomanic superwoman overachieving. But it is such a relief to know that others understand why your performance is uneven and can make appropriate allowances.
There are more of us dealing with these challenges than writing publicly about them. You’re not alone!
Thanks for sharing this. I have a family member that is undiagnosed because he is afraid of a ‘label’. I try to tell him that people understand and it is better to look after yourself than ignore it. Thanks again!
The label does confer some legal protections (in the US), but there are also other issues related to insurance, etc. Sometimes people get diagnosed with “Mood Disorder NOS (not otherwise specified)” as a less-stigmatized label. Accepting the label can help you get appropriate treatment, which makes a big difference in so many ways (even for mortality, it’s that serious.)
But accepting a label like a mood disorder is hard. Even with 20+ years dealing with mental illness, I have a really hard time accepting that I have a chronic illness as serious as bipolar disorder, after a year of treatment that has really improved things for me.
Thanks Dee Dee
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Congratulations! It’s wonderful to see people that have the courage to stand up and talk about a topic such as this. You are making such a difference that you may never see, not just in your own life, but also in others’ lives too. God Bless!
Thanks – it’s not easy, but sometimes you can’t keep quiet anymore. And I have no patience for putting up with extra anxiety because I’m keeping secrets that I shouldn’t have to. Enough already!
Well done that was a really brave thing to do, and so was sharing. You’re supervisor seems like a really great guy. Best of luck to you
Thanks! I’m lucky to have supportive people to work with, definitely a job that was worth working hard to get!
We need to right more about bipolar! Thanks for sharing.
There are some really good bipolar bloggers out there – check my links for a few of my favorites.
Thank you for sharing and for these links!
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YOU have amazing courage to be able to tell him. It’s hard for me to admit my problems (similar but not the same) and I don’t even have a boss yet. Good luck with Round 2!
Trust me, I know what you mean. I have a hard time saying it to myself some days. Other times it feels like it’s no big deal at all. Of course, that might have something to do with the mood swings.
Acceptance is a process, not a one-time thing you can just check off your recovery list. And acceptance doesn’t mean you like something – just that you acknowledge whatever it is that you can’t change.
Congratulations to you and I admire your courage. Twenty years ago, this could not be spoken about in the workplace. Also a big hurray for you being Freshly Pressed
I agree, I feel lucky that I’m going through this in “this day and age” where there’s at least a bit more general awareness of mental illness.
Yes, hurray for Freshly Pressed-ness! I’m totally flattered by all the attention.
i have so many friends with bipolar a friend of mine who just recently died she was like late 70′s or so, who would be so talkative, and hyper and yes would spend money like crazy, one day she spent like almost 2000 dollars in one day! another friend was bipolar (I am guessing on his changing moods) because I would see him and he seemed so cheerful and happy, and once he told me sometimes he has a real hard time sleeping, and at the time I thought maybe he was just under some stress maybe over work or something, but when a young happy man hangs himself, something is amiss(his wife is still struggling with this event), another friend also did the same but she took pills. another friend who suffered severe depression (I dont know if he was bipolar tho) he also killed himself. all of this within the same year. it just threw me for a loop. anyway I have other friends with bipolar and they seem to be doing okay, they must have found a treatment or way to cope. I don’t really pry into other people’s affairs, a person who suffers mania/depression must do what is in his/or her best interest. if something is not working do something else. I have another friend who lives up the street and every time we are together, like walking trails or whenI see her at a meeting, she never smiles, not once in all the years I have known her does she smile, another friend of minds mother was the same way, she died years ago from cancer. so this conditions is alot more widespread then I realized. hang in there my friend, I hope it goes well and you find some balance you can live with happily enough.
Statistically they say it’s about 2% of the US population, which is more people than you’d probably expect. And unfortunately, bipolar disorder does have a very high suicide rate of around 20% – the highest of any mental illness – and accounts for more emergency room action as well.
Sometimes “prying” is needed, but that’s definitely up to judgment. Most people with bipolar who get treatment do quite well, but that’s probably one of the media’s best kept secrets when it comes to coverage of mental illness!
Well done, and I’m glad he handled the situation correctly. Good luck with round 2.
I’m pretty sure Round 2 will be fine too. But different. I guess I’ll need all the practice I can get…
Thank you for sharing that. I know that must have been very hard to write for others to read. You are an inspiration to me. I am struggling with severe depression and only a few close people know. But now since I am posting this here, I will write about it on my blog. Thank you and I pray that God will pour His blessings upon you and your family.
It’s so hard to handle mental pain in the first place, and even harder if there aren’t many people helping support you. I have generally found that people are more open and caring than I would have assumed. Writing about it can also be really cathartic – I hope you find peace and healing in it.
Thank you so much.
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Good for you! That takes a lot of courage! Remember this everyone has flaws behind the curtians
That’s what I keep telling myself – it’s just a lot easier to see my own flaws than those of others. Or perhaps I’m just more forgiving of others’ shortcomings than my own – which would be par for the course.
Congrats and kudos to you for being brave to “come out.” With a mom who is schizophrenic and clinically depressed, I have some appreciation for the challenges you faced in having the conversation. And I’m glad it worked out well for you.
Thanks, Kevin – I find that there are a lot more people whose lives are touched by mental illness than we come to expect. It’s just not something that gets discussed much.
This is great. You showed a lot of courage there and definitely deserve a pat on the back. It’s hard to disclose a mental health issue, I know, but I’m finding that by doing just that, people usually only want the best for you. They don’t react with the nasty grossed out looks that we often expect. More often than not they are very supportive & understanding. And even better, the more we do admit difficulties, the less stigmatised it becomes. Abnormalities become normal.
I agree – part of that does come from surrounding myself with good caring people, of course. But I think admitting to difficulties is especially important when the external perception is that you’re effortlessly very successful. No success comes for free, and some of us pay the piper in very different ways than others.
Awesome! I’m OCD/ADD…its’ trials with me, but I let my boss know and they get it now too!
It’s great to hear that your boss was able to see past the labels – it’s tough, but important to let others know that disclosure isn’t always a horrible experience.
Thank you for sharing shedding some light…. knowledge is power, for all.
Outstanding post, Dee Dee. Impressed by your courage, and your eloquence in sharing the story. xo
Thanks! I’ve always been impressed with your being “out” but there are so many differences in circumstance, it’s silly to draw comparisons.
Write what you know, you know? I write about being mental because it’s one of the things I know best, for better or worse…
I’d tell you my thesis for Bipolar’s posted in my one of my blog posts. I’d also tell you afterward I noted the alteration in Wikipedia’s bipolar article. All changes resemble the thesis I wrote, but I get agitated as a result of not having enough evidence. Just remember yourelf during any event , and maybe blessings of will shower upon you from the heavens.
That’s unfortunate about your thesis – but thanks for the well wishes. You must have learned a lot of interesting things about the condition while writing you thesis. I’m beginning to wish I had studied psychiatric genetics…
Been there too… Remained in the ‘Bipolar Closet’ at work for 2 years after my diagnosis… But finally came out – so to speak. It’s a tough one to crack. I think you are brave. I always take a step back and look at the world and think: WTF! What is normal after all, there’s a dormant diagnosis in all of us… for at least one thing.
Good luck. Stay strong… You are already brave enough to be honest. I respect you for that.
Yeah, I agree – the question of “what’s normal” is a legitimate one! But I see a lot of people living with a lot less distress than I do, so I figure that must somehow be closer to “normal.”
It’s only been a year since I was diagnosed and 6 months in this job, so it was pretty much the soonest I was going to feel comfortable saying anything. And also motivated by a good spate of acceptance coming out of dealing with a recent episode…
brave chickadee,
thank you for another inspiring and practical post. and thank you for sharing your story so the rest of us can benefit from your experiences. looking forward to round 2.
I’ll doubtless have things to say about Round 2 too. Different supervisor, different style, different reaction, no doubt…
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Coming out to the world is a difficult revelation. I have tremendous respect for the story you share. Living with 3 ADHD’s and 1 with Bi-Polar also (YES THREE), I know how hesitant you must be. Although in order for the world to understand and compromise your situation, we must understand the emotions and struggles you experience. There are many things I don’t understand or know how to handle because in my situation, they are not as open and still don’t quite know how to “use their words” to describe the emotions they feel and why. We have only begun this journey, discovering what works, what does NOT work, what triggers are and how to manage them. Organization seems futile because every time I set systems in place, they come along and find some way to destroy it. They are not where you are yet! They don’t understand that organizing is going to help them stay on track, with less chance of triggering a Bi-Polar episode. At times honestly, I feel like this is more than I signed up for, struggle with knowing how to be supportive and have just wanted to throw in the towel. Your story brings me hope, to know that there may be a way to live with this and manage it. I will be following your story and thank you for sharing.
Wow, sounds like you have your hands full! My mom had 3 ADHD kids in the house (and husband too) so I’m sure she would have had stories to exchange with you…
I can’t help but suggest checking out dialectical behavioral therapy for the ADHD/bipolar crowd because a lot of the key skills would be really valuable. There’s a general workbook that is pretty good, and another specific to bipolar disorder, which I like pretty well. It may take awhile to get buy-in, but the skills really do help deal with emotion and people and difficult situations.
You’re beyond wonderful! You obviously sympathize with what I endure. Its not always chaos, sometimes comical, but I can never say its boring in this household! Thanks so much and I’ll be following to know what to look for, since you have an art for putting it into words
That’s really great that you had the guts to say something and stand up for yourself, I am not as lucky, but I have had similar problems where I just drop everything and completely lose focus of whatever I am doing, I have ruined relationships, dropped out of school or quit jobs many times and it does not stop, I get depressed feeling there is no escape from the up and down. I hate drugs and try the holistic approach (meditation, exercise) but invariably I drop everything and lose it again and again, I am at a loss for what to do. I work at a company and they are fairly understanding of me without knowing exactly what is wrong with me, I feel isolated and only feel like I am understood by other “crazy” people. Hopefully one day I will figure it out or maybe this is just it.
If you have access to health care coverage, you might consider looking into a therapist to help you work through the causes of your distress. If nothing else, having someone neutral to talk about these things with can be a big relief.
Dear DeeDee:
I randomly found your blog and this post, and I’m glad I did. Congratulations on facing your fear and being honest. I have had PTSD and OCD with panic attacks on top for almost all my life. A long, sad story. Anyway, I made a decision a long time ago, not to be anything less than my authentic self. I am very open about my disorders and I won’t lie to you, often it’s bit me back HARD.
That being said, I don’t regret my decision. It’s so much easier to live in the open than with the fear of discovery. I urge you to share your diagnosis and the hardships it places on you with your loved ones. Trust me when I say that in the long run, it’s much easier to be authentically who you are.
Peace to you and your family this Holiday season.
Sidney Peck
Thanks for the encouragement, Sidney – I agree, having nothing to hide is definitely preferable. I’m an authentic kind of gal, so it’s unnatural and uncomfortable for me to keep this kind of secret. I’ll get there at some point, but I definitely don’t have the werewithal to tell my family just yet!
Congratulations on finding the strength and courage to disclose your mental illness with your supervisor. I am convinced by your post that it was and probably still is, a very uncomfortable process. Yet it sounds like you have been rewarded for your honesty with a supportive group of management, and I hope you will continue to find the sort of reassurance you will need to be successful in the future. I have also been diagnosed with Bipolar disorder and yet sometimes I question the diagnosis, because as you know, I don’t always feel Bipolar. Medication did not work for me. I found counseling and journaling to be much more effective. Everyone is different I suppose. Best wishes to you!
I have had a hard time with acceptance, and often question the diagnosis – there are so many other things this could be, right? Well, maybe not. There aren’t a lot of conditions that involve mania or anything like it.
Anyway, I had to get to a point of adequate acceptance before I could tell my supervisors. It was easier to tell friends sooner than that, and they were all great about it, but people who are higher up in the hierarchy have to be handled a little differently…
You’re probably coping better than most .. hope so .. life, meaningless as it is, is short. Don’t worry about consequences, they will happen despite you, just enjoy the time and space you have.
I’m working on developing that sort of mindfulness and ability to live more fully in the moment. But it’s easier said than done to try to eject the worries that have made nests in my head for so long. One thing at a time.
I guess so … my niece suffered that a bit .. I wrote the song “Lonely train” for/about her. I know it helped, as she realized we are all on the same team, so to speak. Send me an email address and I’ll send you the song.
What you’ve done here is very important. Thank you for your courage to bring understanding and discussion of an all too mysterious topic.
I hope it becomes less and less mysterious very quickly! It’s one of the worst things about bipolar – it’s still so stigmatized that there’s genuinely well-founded concern about it killing your job and/or career.
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I can sooo relate! You’ve been both brave and fortunate. I suffer from the mildest form of this disease. Thank you for sharing your experience. Blessings today and always!
Thanks!
I have become quite open and frank about my depression and it is the best thing I have done for it. I was quite surprised when I realised how many other people (even close friends!) suffered from mental illness as well and were not speaking of it. There will always be people who just don’t get it, but there are many who do, who suffer from it, or have loved ones who suffer with it and will support you.
Opening up does a number of things…. 1. it lets people in. One of the worst curses of depression is that you feel completely alone it in and there are many people who will support you…. 2. it gets things off your chest and give you an instant reprise… 3. and it opens up communication to others who suffer, making depression less of a dark and lonely place. The amount of times I “confessed” to someone that I have depression and on and off with therapy and meds I am blown away with how often I hear “so I am!! I thought I was all alone! How could have we been friends for so long and not know this about each other!? Lets help each other.”
Ha! the irony that happiness can come from knowing that others are depressed!
I haven’t read the couple 100 replies you have on this matter so maybe I am saying something you have already thought, but just wanted to share my two cents and shine a little light in the darkness.
I’ve definitely had that experience a few times – telling friends, and they say another friend or family member has the same condition, or they have OCD or anxiety issues. They’re already somewhat knowledgeable and sympathetic. There’s more people touched by mental illness than just those carrying diagnoses and wallet cards with lists of medications. Even just being open with the people closest to us has a ripple effect.
Tis true!
You can add a brave soul to your list while you are disclosing what you believe to be “a quiet shame” for lack of a better term (it is what my mom called it). I admire you. I am not bi-polar but my mother was a diagnosed with a paranoid bi-polar personality. She refused meds and even though she had her issues there was so much to love you just had to ride the wave. It sounds like your boss sees the value in you too.
I try not to see it as a shameful thing; I’m just very wary of others’ responses, which can be colored by ignorant biases or sympathetic personal experiences. It’s hard to guess what you’re going to get until you get to know someone – in the meantime, I’m not comfortable making it part of the initial introduction, you know?
I do know. I had to wait until I felt good and comfortable with my friends before I spoke of my mom’s illness. I saw the value in my mom and I had tremendous love for her. As timed passed my friends saw odd behavior due to her refusal to take meds but they grew to accept our family dynamics. And more importantly, they began to understand how her condition was something she too had to learn to live with too. We all grew with the experience. It was the hardest thing I have ever done… growing up with my mom, but I would not change that experience for nothing in the world. It gave me a strong sense of compassion and I cherish that.
i’m a bipolar type II…
i just trying to keep in the right track even when i’m in abnormal phase
good luck, Dee…
best,
inna
I think that’s the best any of us can do, Inna. Though I don’t consider mood episodes to be abnormal phases – for me, they’re normal, but they’re extreme compared to most people. Just different wiring, that’s all.
You know what I found? Telling my boss made it much easier to tell other people who needed to know. Getting to a point where I am not worried if people find out, when people have approached in darkened photocopy rooms with lowered voices to ask if it is true, I say yep. And that takes the wind out of their sails!
I really hope to get to that point sometime “soon” – as in, after I secure a job that doesn’t have a hard expiration date! But bit by bit, I’ll get there.
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This is a common story for those that are affected by Bipolar or any other mood disorders. It is possible to live a highly productive life.
Thanks for the reblog – I’m glad to hear someone reinforce the message that mood disorders don’t have to be the end of a productive (and generally happy) life!
I know how much courage it takes to do what you did on top of living with it
More people need to know about bipolar and other mood disorders. People need to understand that they are no different than being diabetic, having high cholesterol etc. Good luck with your struggles to stay well
I say struggle because it is that, a struggle
I have been lucky to be well for over a decade with the help of medication and great family and friends
It sure is a struggle – and even when things are going well, it’s still a lot of work!
I think the diabetes metaphor is a good one for general communication, but I think it’s also misleading because most people don’t make the connection that wellness requires more than medicine. Unfortunately, a lot of diabetics I’ve known do much less to manage their health than most of the mentally ill people that I’ve encountered.
I find it incredible that you were able to tell your boss that. I’m bipolar II and I struggle to tell my closest friends about it, and it sounds like you have a more serious form than me. I’m happy for you. Disclosing that to your boss must be such a relief
It takes quite awhile for me to decide to tell someone, but it’s a big relief every time – makes it possible to keep trying. I think I’ve told all of 6 good friends so far, but none of my family.
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I applaud you and your bravery in coming out. I have shared a home with two people on the Bipolar spectrum and while I don’t know the struggles first hand, I have observed them in people I love. The stigma against issues of mental health must be overcome. I wish you all the best!
Even my therapist said once that he can’t know what it’s like to be depressed because he’s never been depressed, and I told him that I really appreciated that he knows that. Being sympathetic despite not being able to share in the experience (all the better for you, really!) is a sign of a warm-hearted person.
And amen to ending stigma – it’ll be a long, slow uphill battle, but maybe someday society will be a little more compassionate.
Well done indeed DeeDee , tried EFT for your Bi-Polar ? Your Therapist might not thank you but a local EFT practitioner can help you make a massive difference to the effects. Good luck .
I haven’t tried EFT yet – my therapist has mentioned it in the past and I am curious, but haven’t looked into it just yet. Thanks for the suggestion – I’ll have a look again.
Congratulations on your decision and taking action! I would like to reblog this on my site
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Encouraging and uplifting story, but don’t take my word for it, read on
Thanks for the reblog, ahmrita! “Uplifting,” eh? I think that’s the first time anyone’s described my writing that way.
lol, to me it is, your sense of humour shines through so beautifully
Wow, that takes a lot of courage. Thanks for sharing this inspiring story.
If I hadn’t been fairly confident of a receptive audience, I don’t think I would have had the guts. Context is everything, as they say.
First of all I’d like to re-iterate what everyone else has said in response to this post:
1. Well done to you for coming out and for finding the courage to do so and
2. Thank-you so much for sharing this.
I have had a bit of a bad/stressful few weeks and reading this does (like a few others have said) make you realise that you are not alone. It is SO SO easy to feel as though you are isolated and like no-one really understands when you are having a particularly bad mental health day. Those times when you really feel as though you want to reach out to someone but you have absolutely no idea who to actually pick up the phone to talk to because you just think that they will think/say you are being stupid. Those are the times when you need to reach out & usually when you do people are definitely so much more supportive than you would ever expect (sometimes to the point when you think – are you for real – why are you being so nice to me?! Lol).
I was diagnosed as having a psychotic episode and depression 10 years ago. It’s then easy to define yourself as just that – mental – even though actually it is something that happened to me and is something that actually I can manage and it is not everything that I am (there is so much more to me than my mental illness). However, like I said some days are easier than others and on difficult days it can be hard to see things like this.
To be honest I have also questioned whether I am bi-polar reading more & more about it over the years but I have never been diagnosed as such. There are times when I have extreme highs & extreme lows. I once attempted suicide (about 7 or 8 years ago). I was on medication for years but I am no longer taking anything. I have times when I become manic and will work for hours/days on end and then times when I feel unable to function. Times when I am petrified to leave the house (and in fact even on good days I still have to psych myself up to leave the house). I sometimes find it extremely difficult to interact with people socially and I often feel anxious in conversation, especially in large groups of people. Despite this I usually find that once I do push myself to leave the house and to talk to people and to face all of my fears that I feel better and just in doing those things improves my confidence & my self esteem which in turn makes everything else easier.
Like you said the more open you become about things the easier it is as well and in the last year or so I have become a lot more open about everything in my life to anyone & everyone I meet. Not everyone likes it & I think some people even probably think of me as being a bit feral but at least I am being myself and that’s all I can be. People are sometimes surprised to find out I have mental health problems (like you said I try to hide it and have spent a long time worrying about the stigma – I guess that is just a coping mechanism).
Do you know what though? I have come to the conclusion recently that as soon as you eliminate the elephant in the room (whatever that elephant is as there are other things I have had to come out about during my life) and kind of get everything out in the open, that everyone in that room immediately relaxes and immediately starts to feel better and yes usually you find people are a lot more approachable and sympathetic than you might realise.
Anyway, like I said, thanks for sharing this and also when you come to talk with your other supervisor, if you remember how understanding your 1st supervisor was and that sense of relief you felt from being open & honest this will hopefully help you to feel more at ease!
Good luck!
Thanks for the encouragement! I figure everyone has a metaphorical cross to bear, and for some of us, it’s mental health issues.
To be honest, despite the challenges, I don’t think I’d opt out of being bipolar if I could because there are also benefits to thinking differently than most folks.
What I wish I could have done differently would be learning to advocate for myself and educate myself a lot sooner.
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I am also bipolar I and hyper manic and ADD. I have learned to have a very healthy successful life. It takes work but you can do it. I have learned many skills that work for me and I use them. I don’t come out to everyone. I believe this is a medical matter and it is private. I have told some friends and family. I applaud you for being so forth coming and honest. I chose a different way. Being a business person I don’t want my professionalism judged because of my medical history.
Your honesty was refreshing and reminded me how I felt and dealt with it.
I don’t come out to everyone either – in many cases, it’s just none of their business. I decided it was worth the risk with my supervisor(s) because of the type of environment I work in (more tolerant of neurodiversity than most…), my trust in these individuals, whom I’ve known for years, and because it impacts the way we work together by impacting my work. For the kind of work I do, there’s more potential harm in being seen as inexplicably inconsistent than in admitting to mental health issues because they are so obviously rampant in academia.
It’s all a matter of context, of course!
Congratulations! Your post was very moving. Speaking the truth about ourselves is always a struggle. More so, at the workplace where the emphasis is all about productivity, and far less about who we are. It is as difficult for children, as for adults, for male and female… no exception whatsoever. I am not sure this gets easier the next time we have to speak the truth.
The vulnerability and the feeling of being splayed out that comes after speaking the truth about ourselves is enormous, and often what holds us back in the first place. When our son passed away three years ago, I decided to stay macho so that others in the family could grieve and have my support. This lasted a year but showed up on my work. I took the plunge and spoke to my supervisor about it. She gave me time off from work. While I still long for my son (I woke up this morning thinking of him), I think I can say I am a happier person.
Good for you for realizing the importance of vulnerability to our overall health as individuals! I’m working on being more open to being vulnerable – I’ve recently been quite inspired by some work by Brené Brown on vulnerability and wholehearted living. It’s tough but worth trying, I think.
You know what? I have depression. Today I have not been at my best because my fridge died FOUR DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS. Which, of course, is when all the shops are busy busy busy and all the fridge techies are closed closed closed. I ended up speaking to my husband on the phone and going and purchasing a new one that we couldn’t afford. Anyway, that aside, the more people you disclose your condition to, the more people you will find already have someone in their family/themselves/their neighbour/a friend etc who has bipolar. I found that when I started taking anti depressants, i knew no one else who took them. I was all alone. I didn’t hesitate to talk about it, however, and worked on the theory that no one had a right to judge me until they’d been to the depths I’d been… and when I did talk about them, the repsonse was something along the lines of “I’ve been taking anti depressants for years!”. Don’t be scared to talk about it. After reading your post, I think your interview with Mr Flycatcher went remarkably well! I hope you have a wonderful Christmas. xo
Happy holidays to you as well – I hope the situation has improved since you left the comment!
For some reason, I never really had a problem about being open about depression. Perhaps because it seems somewhat better understood, and because when I’m down, there’s just no way to hide it, so people ask.
But like you, I find that when I “fess up” to someone, more often than not they mention a diagnosis of their own, or how a family member or friend is similarly afflicted. It’s a really comforting response, to be honest!
Hi Ms. Chickadee-
This is the first time I’ve read your blog–and I have to tell you….your story of ‘coming out’ to your supervisor sounded so familiar I almost thought you’d been reading my journals! Seriously, the internal dialogue, the actual discussion, the fear and anxiety–so much like my recent experience. I’ve been letting people know about my bipolar 1 diagnosis slowly…(but without all of the details)…and it’s getting easier each time–mostly. A couple of days ago, however, I made a post on facebook about it, in an attempt to push the public conversation regarding the sad state of our mental health system along, but shortly afterward, I hid the post. A few people commented about how ‘brave’ it was, but I suddenly regretted saying anything even though my whole thing is to start saying it! The anxiety about it is discouraging.
So thanks for your writing. It’s given me a little boost.
I swear, I’m not reading your journals!
Part of the reason I gave a bunch of detail was to be clear about how it affects me and how I work, so there could be a decent understanding of what being bipolar means when it comes to working with me. Fortunately, I have great colleagues who have all been very supportive.
But I know exactly what you mean about wanting to hide from what you’ve already said. One of several reasons that I deactivated my Facebook account years ago… Well, that and it made me really paranoid!
Hi there,
I was so excited when it became illegal to discriminate against people who have disabilities, but quickly learned that mental disabilities are a whole different ballgame.
Believing I was protected, by law, I disclosed being Bipolar to an employer. I was terminated without any notice. Of course the employer said it was because she decided to eliminate my position. When I discussed this with a lawyer I was told it was not best to disclose my mental illness because it really isn’t protected by the anti-discrimination laws. I now know that is not true, but I won’t self-report again.
I am 53 years old and have been living with the stigma of my diagnosis since I was 30. Every time something goes astray in my life my family blames my “being Bipolar”. Three weeks ago my daughter was referred to CPS because her apartment manager thought bedbugs come from being dirty and reported her and her husband for neglecting her two children. To make a long story short; it was mentioned that my home was also infested (my daughter brought them with her when her family moved in with me a year ago) and that I was opposed to getting fumigated*–my kid said it was because I was Bipolar. The CPS worker jumped on that right away and until she met me and checked with my therapist and psychiatrist I was NOT able to be alone with my grandchildren, I watch them when their mom is in school.
Well, I was cleared but really this was unnecessary and my grandsons suffered as a result. Xavier is 4 and was very concerned with my absence, Damien is 1 and really didn’t appear to notice. WE were very happy to be reunited!!!
My work history includes Hospice CNA, child foster care provider (for 23 years), adult foster home manager (for 10 years). I never had any problems with my licenses or clients.
I am really happy for you. I am proud of your Supervisor. I pray that you can get one group of medications that will keep you stable. My experience with medications has been great. My current regimen has been Cymbalta, Seroquel and Lamictal, with Ativan as a PRN for the last 8 years and with occasional adjustments in dosage or drug schedule I have been really happy…I still have big ups and downs but not many. For that I am thankful.
Good luck! I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. You are a brave woman!!
*I am using a different method to clear them up and I am being successful.
Thanks for your kind comments! I am always concerned about what judgments may be made if someone sees me as a “mentally ill person” rather than a “person with mental illness.” There’s a big semantic difference.
It’s unfortunate that the anti-discrimination laws have been so thoroughly ignored or worked around. However, there was recently a successful suit where a bipolar man had been illegally terminated because of disclosing his illness, so that’s a start. It’s extremely hard to prove that the firing was due to legal reasons when it’s at-will employment, rather than discrimination, particularly because bipolar really does sometimes affect performance.
Hurray for you!! My son has been recently diagnosed and struggles with society at all. You Ms Chikadee are a sight for sore eyes!! (That is old folks talk for you are the best!!) I don’t know the words you used but you suggested you are broken. Let me suggest this, to you. You are not broken, you are perfect as you are and the world would be a darker place without the creative light you are shedding on it. I have always and always is a long time in my world!! Always believed that it would be a “person of bipolar” that saves the world!! You keep doing what you do as you can do it. No more apologies…be you..
XO a Mother and Grandmother
completely enjoying who you are.
Thanks! I don’t feel broken per se (at least not at the moment), just occasionally very, very frustrated by persistent challenges. But I do worry that others will see me that way, as being broken, though fortunately that’s not so likely for people I’ve known a long time.
What a brave (and right) thing you did. I’m actually been paranoid I have this “adult ADD” but I’m seeing it as an asset for taking risks in doing my crafts and dreams. You are inspirational.
I find that treating the ADD doesn’t rob me of creativity and risk-taking so much as it eases the distress of my symptoms overall, and sometimes lets me think twice before impulsively doing things that are inadvisable. It’s just a lot easier for me all around when I’m not jumping up every few moments, forgetting what I was doing, and losing everything under the sun.
DeeDee, We are always told the 1st step is the most difficult, and then we find out that little saying is true. You have made yours, continue, they really do become more easy. Take care, Bill
Thanks, Bill – I think you’re absolutely right, the first step is the hardest. A little practice with friends helped prepare me for talking to my supervisor, but it’s something I’ll have to do many times in my career, and I think it will be a little bit worrying every time – but definitely easier.
Hey well done for telling your employer. my last job was as a Vocational Rehab Consultant and know what a difficult decision that must have been to have taken the step! Big pat on the back ! In Uk we were using this with clients and employers to support ongoing discussions around health and impact on work. You may or may not find it helpful but thought I would pop the link in for you.
http://businessdisabilityforum.org.uk/uploads/files/Tailored_adjustments_agreement_BDF_November_2012.doc
The big push was the day I was in the office and shouldn’t have been because I could hardly stop crying. I managed to contain myself until I left the office early, but had it been a worse day or some other little thing had gone wrong, who knows what would have happened? It takes time to figure out how I need to adapt my life to better manage being bipolar, but it’s worth it.
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The fear of being judged in anyway shape or form is such a difficult thing. It really boils down to that. Being judged. It’s what people do really, we judge people all the time, and for most people they tend to look at the negative part…makes them feel better about themselves. The fact of the matter is mental health issues are so much more prevalent in our society than ever before. Being kind to everyone I meet is something I try to do everyday and have to constantly tell myself to stop judging people so harshly, because chances are someone is struggling and battling something. I would say, statistically, that half the population has a mental health issue and will probably go through there life struggling and never even know it, most just self medicate and end up addicted to drugs or alcohol because they can’t cope with society and life in general. Fortunately we are becoming more and more aware of mental health issues and the stigma of having a mental health issue becoming more acceptable thanks to brave people like you coming out and openly discussing your struggles….people will judge harshly, question is, how much power are you going to give them?
At the point at which it can be claimed, likely accurately, that 50% of the population has mental health issues, I would suggest, respectfully, that a good dose of the blame has to be on society itself. Any social world that provides pathways for only 50% of the population is incomplete. Any society that is split 50-50 like this is, in itself, mentally ill. When its people mirror its illness, they display it, but they are not, necessarily, not in all cases, the point of origin of illness. Often, they are only contaminated by it.
I agree….
I believe that the statistic I usually see quoted is around 25%, give or take – since that’s from NIMH, it’s about as good a guess as we get. Mental illness is often under-reported, however, so these figures probably actually lowball it.
You are so right about vulnerability and judgment. One of the things I’ve been doing in DBT (Dialectical Behavioral Therapy) is learning to be more mindful of judging myself and others. It really helps me interact better with others and reduces general distress, at least when I can remember to do it!
I too have been working on developing a more compassionate perspective on others, largely inspired by HH the Dalai Lama, because it all makes so much sense to me. I can’t see how any mindfulness and compassion practices could harm anything, and there is so much to be gained.
When people are mean, I try to remember that their anger is a result of some pain that they have experienced, and it’s probably not even me. That makes it a little easier to avoid a knee-jerk reaction and give it a little thought before responding.
More power to you DeeDee, you are an inspiration
keep moving forward.
Thank you!
What a difficult journey! I can speak to a similar “coming out” and that is when you have to explain to an employer that you have PTSD. Maybe somehow easier because there is such a pro-military yellow ribbon sentiment out there now, but still really hard. Even harder to ask permission to keep an emotional support animal by your side at work to help with the coping. My advice– helps to register your service animal with serviceanimalregistryofcalifornia.com or similar registry, but none is required by law, just optional. The main thing is to be open and honest– honesty goes a long way. In the end it will hurt so bad to hide yourself; much better to explain, and people are so so so much more understanding than we imagine they will be. God bless!
I think the awareness of PTSD has actually been really helped by the obsessive media coverage of all things military. It has shown the public exactly the situations that lead to PTSD, and so many accounts from clearly brave individuals who are tortured by their experiences.
Unfortunately it seems that other mental health conditions have been trivialized or “popularized” by celebrity gossip reporting. But the media are using sensationalism differently, and people still have no idea what illnesses like bipolar are really about, so they can be quite judgmental about it.
A fellow blogger just wrote a great post about psychiatric service dogs – you might want to check it out: http://bipolarforlife.me/2012/12/23/psychiatric-service-dogs/
Congratulations – I had to come out as gay in my late teens/early twenties, and it has been very similar coming out as BiPolar at 56! But after a nasty episode and hospitalization, I decided it’s time to go public. Lost some “friends”, but now know the value of the true friends I still have!
Keep up the good work
Best Wishes always
Oz
I agree, letting people know about this part of our lives is tough but sometimes necessary. And it does tend to make people show their colors, so to speak. For better or worse, I think my over-cautiousness in trusting others means that most of the people I will eventually need to tell with be sympathetic. At least for awhile, until I have to deal with job changes and relocating and all that stressful stuff…
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It is not easy to share such things. It is easier in time. Love to you. Yumi
Thank you, Yumi! I am practicing.
I was told by my co-workers that I was bipolar. My co-workers are nurses, and you would think that as a nurse I would have figured it out. It’s amazing to me what we hide from ourselves. But the sense of relief, the flash of true understanding that they were RIGHT, was overwhelming. I have a funky sense of humor, and my “bipolarity” enhances it, so I have always been accepted. It is part of my life and part of me. And I am very open about it, secrets just make the condition scary for others. I managed it for 20 years myself, using hypomania to become a “superworker”. But a recent bout of cancer, along with 5 other serious health conditions, caused rapid cycling, and I knew I was in trouble. So, I braved a psychiatrist (having a severe aversion due to a horrible NAZI from a hospitalization in the past). And he was lovely. And for once I let off my funny mask and just sobbed my heart out. We live in an age where medicine saves lives, both physical and mental. I suggest you “play it cool”, as I have always found that the best way to go. And as the trainer for my unit, I have to tell a LOT of people!
As they say, denial isn’t just a river in Egypt. I recently admitted to some out-of-hand perfectionism I’d denied/ignored/lied to myself about for a very long time. At least now I can work on improving that, right?
It will be easier to “play it cool” with practice. I used to be terrified of public speaking and had to script everything. 6 years later, I have given at least two dozen talks to audiences as large as 300 people, so it no longer worries me much. I figure this will be similar, in due time. Or at least, I hope so!
It takes guts to come out in the workplace re mental health issues. I’m fortunate my bosses’ wife has suffered from depression. Although I didn’t tell him I suffer from chronic pain syndrome. It’s a difficult job market right now and to tell people that you have mental health and physical health problems pretty much means you won’t get the job. My current boss who is very supportive (although we do grate on each other’s nerves sometimes) has been so great. He paid $300 for a naturopath as a Christmas present for me. Good bosses are like gold
A compassionate boss is well worth holding on to, for sure!
I figure the best approach for me at my next job (this is a contract position) is to get hired, in writing, and make sure everything’s legal and final, and then disclose as necessary to the proper authorities. If I disclose immediately after hiring, then they have no grounds for claiming inadequate performance for termination and would instead have to base that on evidence (fat chance, I’m a really good performer overall) and I can get the accommodations I will need – in this case, minor but important.
I think that would theoretically give me a bit more protection against wrongful termination in the future, since it would be on the record. If they had it in for me enough to want me out for being a little crazy, then it’s probably not a place I should stay anyway. Fortunately, I can afford that attitude, at least for the moment.
I applaud your courage. We live in a society that is completely unforgiving, at times, of mental illnesses because for so many people bad moods can simply be “snapped out of”. They can just overcome the occasional “funks” that they find themselves in, because they have developed coping mechanisms to handle normal emotions. But they aren’t bombarded by the weight of chemical imbalances, and the stressors of encountering medical conditions that can’t just be fixed by sheer willpower. The comparison is trite and frequently repeated, but you wouldn’t tell someone with cancer to just snap out of it, but it is okay to approach someone with mental illness and tell them to just get over whatever is holding them back.
I really wrestle with depression and borderline diagnoses from trauma in my youth. It is very hard because I have relocated to a city where no one knows my past. I am a nanny and I have avoided telling my two employers (both doctors at that!) about my suicidal ideations and my struggle to make it over the humps of anxieties and days where the world seems out to get me. It scares me to be constantly around children with such crazy mood swings, but I fear that they would deem me incompetent if they knew my “big ugly secret”. I applaud you, so very much, and envy your experience with such support and understanding.
The best to you!
As I told my therapist, my husband gets in a nasty funk for one or two days, maybe every three or four months. He’s usually better the next day, and it has only made him a grouchypants, not disabled him in any way. I figure that’s pretty normal – therapist agrees.
Being unable to function due to depression is hard to communicate to others who haven’t experienced it. To them it looks like you’re being lazy or self-indulgent or something. I often judge myself very harshly on the same grounds, but the truth is that I just don’t want to admit that sometimes I simply can’t work and shouldn’t make it any worse by fretting over it.
For what it’s worth, I’ve known a handful of people with mood disorders who have been truly excellent caretakers for children. They are usually very sensitive to monitoring their own emotional state to ensure that they’re meeting their responsibilities to see that the kids are being well cared for, but also that sensitivity transfers and they can relate to kids – highly emotional creatures – very well.
These poor folks are always terrified of losing their positions because of stigma – the media so often shows mentally ill people doing irresponsible and sometimes horrible things to or with children. They never show the people, and there are so many of them, who quietly struggle while putting their charges ahead of themselves at every turn.
So hats off to you, miss ashley!
Thank you. I know that having a mood disorder diagnosis has aided me a lot in being incredibly sensitive to the fluctuation of the moods in others. It helps me to perceive, almost 100% accurately, the moods that the children are battling, regardless of whether or not another adult could catch it.
It is hard, to rally against the stigma that maybe I am “mentally unstable” and that I am not fit to take care of children. It really is a battle when I have to force myself out of bed many days of the week. But, I have always felt the most upset with myself. I don’t project my negative emotions I feel towards myself on other people. I don’t consider it fair to have such a strong sense of dislike and disdain for my person and anticipate that I can just look to others to solve it for me.
Thank you for the vote of confidence in my favor
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Nicely done. Please check out my post called, “Being Bipolar” at: http://wp.me/p2ckKM-hF Thanks and take good care. xoJulia
Thanks, Julia – that’s a nice post! I figure the more of us are out there dispelling myths and misconceptions about bipolar, the better.
You betcha! Merry Christmas, my friend! xoJulia
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Thank you so much for sharing. I’ve struggled with mental illness my entire life. My brother was recently diagnosed with Bipolar 1, and my therapist/doctor are exploring if I am experiencing the same. I can relate with everything you said here. I haven’t “come out” to my family, coworkers, or many of my friends yet because I’m afraid. I admire your courage. I hope that once I have a certain answer for what’s going on with my brain I can have similar courage.
Diagnosis is a long and excruciating process, isn’t it? I often wonder if people who are judgmental about mental illness would be a little less quick to judge if they understood what’s really involved.
I’ve waited a long time to “come out” (it feels like ages, anyway) because I’m still working on accepting the diagnosis. There’s still some small chance that something else (physiological) is causing the symptoms, so I don’t want to tell too many people in case that turns out to be the root cause. More likely, however, I have both conditions. But so it goes.
Having a solid diagnosis – even if you doubt it – really does help. It helps you figure out how to move forward, and it helps you forgive yourself for what you may have thought were character flaws. It validates your experiences, and that’s also very healing. All of that takes time, but seems to be a pretty common experience. I hope getting some answers will also bring you a bit of peace.
Thank you! I hope so too!
DeeDee, Very well done. Not easy to do. I’ve had to disclose to people about PTSD and anxiety disorder knowing the very act of doing so could trigger an episode. I am so relieved you have a supportive supervisor. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean about disclosure possibly triggering an episode – stress is such a huge factor.
For this occasion, I took some anxiety medication in advance because I knew it would help me get through the situation. Maybe someday I won’t need to do that, but until I get better at handling that kind of stress, it’s a godsend.
I have never had the guts to tell any of my employers about my ocd tendancies, bipolar disorder and issues with depression, anxiety and adult ADD. I figured they would think I wasn’t fit to do my job, and get rid of me. That’s why I am trying to find ways to work from home, but sometimes that keeps me isolated. I don’t know what to do, really. Your post was a great inspiration.
I have found that I do pretty well splitting my time between working from home and working at an office – it helps me avoid being too isolated. Not everyone has that kind of flexibility, but it can make such a big difference in managing symptoms.
You kind of have to judge how to proceed based on each situation – if you think you’ll get sacked, you should probably consider whether that’s really just catastrophic thinking on your part (so common with these mental health issues!) or is based on some kind of objective evidence. For me, that’s one of the things having a therapist is really great for, since I’m really inclined to make nasty judgments about myself based on no evidence at all.
I don’t know you, but I stumbled upon this post and thought I would share a quick comment- its pretty amazing that you had the courage to share this with your supervisor and I’m quite glad he was supportive because, as he said, having a mental illness doesn’t mean that you aren’t intelligent, or creative or hardworking or an effective worker. Reading this post was quite timely for me as I have been thinking a lot recently about the stigma towards mental illness, after the tragic shooting in the United States a few weeks ago. I think this blog does a great job of erasing that stigma, through your open and honest, well-written words. Looking forward to reading more!
Thanks!
One of the things that really bothers me about the way mental illness is being framed with that shooting is that it’s reflecting the assumption that the mentally ill are most often aggressors, when they’re actually most often the victims of aggression! This wouldn’t have come up if they believed the shooter was completely sane; no one would have reported that one of the victims had a mental illness (statistically, several of them probably did…)
Other than that, however, I’m really glad to hear people at least giving lip service to the notion that earlier mental health intervention and more comprehensive care should be a higher priority. I hope that flag will continue to be rallied because getting anything to happen is going to take time and persistence. At least this suggests a nugget of hope!
I can relate to what you’ve had to endure at work, although the details are different the story sounds the same to me.
I was diagnosed with Meniere’s Disease 4 years ago (an inner ear disorder) and have suffered with vertigo, tinnitus and hearing loss. I kept my condition private most of the time and have had a couple of jobs since the diagnosis. During my last job, my hearing loss and vertigo became so bad that I finally realized that I had to tell my supervisor. My work started to suffer, I couldn’t hear on the phone and meetings were awful. Saying yes, when you don’t know what someone is saying doesn’t always work and I was agreeing to take on tasks without knowing it.
i finally worked up the nerve to speak to my boss and it didn’t go as bad as I thought but nothing really came out of the talk. Instead of my colleagues working with me, I was working more along than ever and i noticed a decrease in work flow. Shortly after that my doctor thought it was best to take an absence, the new stress at work wasn’t helping anything either.
I’ve been out of work since February and am trying to get back into the workplace. It’s no easy task…Do I explain my issues during interviews or wait until I’m hired and then say something?
It’s tough out there for anyone having to deal with a chronic illness of any sort, and there’s no handbook to help us out.
I wish you the best of luck on your journey! Congrats on being “Freshly Pressed”!!
Knowing when to make a disclosure is totally shrouded in mystery. I think it depends on the situation, the job, the person, etc. I wish I had good advice for everyone facing this challenge – it’s completely confusing!
My mother is bipolar (I think). She has taken different medications for it, but she never admits that she has a problem even though she has constant, severe mood swings. My sister and I have a terrible relationship with her. I wish she would get some help for her problem, even if its just counseling.
That sounds like a tough situation – sometimes sitting down for a frank (difficult) discussion is the best starting point, but everything depends on the context. I know that therapy is very helpful for me, but with the right medication the mood swings shouldn’t be constant or (as) severe. There are other conditions that cause similar symptoms, so there may be something else going on, particularly depending on age and other health factors. It’s hard to know unless you talk about it, and that’s often very difficult when it comes to mental health concerns – but important.
Good luck, I hope things improve!
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you are so very brave
Congratulations on your “coming out”! You are a brave, strong woman, and should remember that if you can achieve this you can achieve anything.
I wasn’t as lucky as you. I suffer from emotionally unstable personality disorder, with severe depression and PTSD too. Before I was fully diagnosed, when I’d only been officially diagnosed as depressed and was on anti-depressants but not yet seeing a psychologist/psychiatrist (I’d asked for a referral but there’s a huge list here), I was really struggling mentally and emotionally. I went to speak to my boss as I felt it was affecting my ability to fully function as part of the team sometimes (though I still did at least twice as much work as them!), and I wanted him to be aware of it. He seemed very understanding on the day, and even arranged for me to work from home 2 days a week so I wouldn’t be so tired. Within a month though, he was piling work on me like nobody’s business, I never got my days at home, and he was expecting me to work late nights and early mornings at least three times a week, even when everyone else was going early and coming in late. Anyway, long story short, this pressure on top of everything else was the straw that broke the camel’s back, and I ended up attempting suicide by jumping off a bridge. Needless to say I failed, but I broke my back and suffered a serious spinal cord injury leaving me paraplegic and with other injuries. I was in hospital for 9 months, and when I came home, I expected to return to work. But instead, they sent me papers to pay me to leave as they said it wouldn’t be “appropriate” for me to return. So with a small bung that barely paid the bills from when I was in hospital, that was me out on my ear, and now I’m at home all day every day, and my depression’s even worse for it. I just wish I’d had a workplace as understanding as yours, then I might never have ended up in this position in the first place, and I might still have a job now at the very least!
So, whilst it’s hard, keep your chin up, and try and find one thing to enjoy about your work every day. Because some of us would very much love to be in your situation! And be proud that you have the courage to speak out and tell people, both in the flesh and here online, just who you are – mental warts and all!
I’m so sorry to hear of your sad story – I hope you find something new before long. Having a job, even a lousy one, definitely makes a difference. Saying that it’s not “appropriate” for you to return would be considered illegal discrimination in the US, if they had no better cause than that – I don’t know if there are any such laws where you are.
WE had somebody with mental illness in the family and it was very difficult. She is dead now and we miss her but the above brings back many memories.
I’m so sorry to hear of your loss, and I hope you’ve had opportunity to heal.
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As someone who struggles with major depression, I want to give Disorderly Chick a great deal of credit for “coming out” to her boss. Furthermore, kudos to the boss, for attempting to be supportive. Nevertheless, I agree with the author that admitting mental illness in the workplace is always difficult. In my current position, I would never admit that I suffer from major depression. I think my boss and co-workers would be understanding, but I fear that I will be stigmatized.
Thanks for the reblog!
I’m the first to admit that I’m working in an environment that’s particularly diversity-friendly in the best sense of the word. If you want the best talent, you’ve got to be willing to be flexible. That has made all of this a lot easier to consider. I don’t think I would have done the same thing at other places I’ve worked.
The stigma part, I’m not as worried about – everyone knows that I’m a good worker. If anything, hopefully I can help reverse stigma by demonstrating general competency. Even though I can’t be as consistent as I wish I could be, at least I can be really good at what I do when I can do it.
That was a very brave thing to do, well done! It’s really good to hear stories of understanding employers and I hope round 2 goes just as well.
Thanks, me too! Round 2 is getting close enough to start worrying about it. But not as much as last time, I hope.
Dear DeeDee,
You have a way with words..you come across as someone who wants to be understood, not necessarily treated differently because you are different. The media tends to portray mental illness in a very two dimensional manner and it will be very refreshing to get an actual first hand account. Looking forward to more of your posts. Good luck!
Thanks! I think most people with mental illness just want to be understood. I sure don’t want to be treated differently but I do occasionally need a little understanding. I do everything I can to operate as “normally” as possible, but even if I weren’t crazy, I sure wouldn’t be normal.
Very inspiring article. Sometimes I have a problem with anxiety and depression, but I’ve always kept it to myself. This has made my life difficult at many of the jobs I’ve had, which have result in me quitting. That was very brave to come clean. I never thought to do that.
Thanks – I guess I never had a problem telling people about depression because I was diagnosed with MDD at 13, so it was just something that I was used to telling a few people about. But the Bipolar diagnosis made me look at the issues harder, especially with respect to ADA stuff. For any disability or accommodation considerations, you have to speak up. In my case, the potential benefit outweighed the risk, but everyone has to think that over for themselves.
DeeDee, thank you for sharing your journey. Even in the 21st century–still–there is a stigma associated with mental illness in our culture. It was courageous of you to share your diagnosis with your supervisor. It was also heartening to hear about how he responded. I work in mental health, and have a nearly lifelong history of depression. Many of my patients have bipolar disorder, and are very good at articulating their experience of this illness. Your willingness to talk it about frankly in a public forum, as well as in your relationships with others, is healthy and commendable. You are also educating and demystifying a disease that the general public simply doesn’t understand. I appreciate that very much, both personally and professionally.
Take good care!
Thanks!
I feel like people need to understand the bigger picture with mental illness. It’s not just whatever is “wrong” (arguably) with the person and how it impacts them personally, it impacts everything they do and everyone they touch, whether those people know it or not. And statistically speaking, it’s pretty much impossible for anyone to go through life without having a meaningful relationship with someone who has a mental illness.
What courage! Truly admirable! You are one of a kind. And that is the best thing about you.
sho, that touched me so much. thank you so much for sharing this. and good luck, girl xxx
Thanks! Happy to share. It’s good for me, and hopefully for others too.
Sad the world decides to label people. I am 60 and my Dr tells me for the first time that I may have been mildly bi-polar my whole life. States doesn’t matter as long as you can function, which I could until more recently. Too many bad things all at one time, but to me that does not prove anything. My Dr also came to this conclusion because I am creative. I believe that most people that have achieved anything in life, can be labeled having a mental illness. Takes a lot of ego to want to be king or control some top area of government and all you have to do is read the symptoms of most mental illnesses and see the traits in yourself or others. I believe that some people are just too sensitive to all the bs in this world and that some are callous. Callous does not mean stronger.
Labels can be useful – it gets me the treatment that really helps me. Without the label, I couldn’t get medications or therapy.
Honestly, your Dr.’s conclusions sound a little odd – is s/he a psychiatrist? If not, I’d take the suggestion of “mild” bipolar (there’s no such thing, by definition) with a bag of rock salt, and see a proper psychiatrist if you’re concerned.
Lots of people self-diagnose by looking at symptom lists and imagining they see the symptoms in themselves. I think we all do it at some point. But with something like mental health, it’s not as simple as it looks – the symptoms sound like something you can relate to, but most people don’t understand just how extreme these symptoms actually are in the case of mental illness.
DeeDee,
I’m here giving you a huge pat on the back because I’ve been there and done that and know how hard it is to just get the words out of your mouth once you’ve completely prepared to spill “the beans”. As a woman living with schizophrenia, I’ve struggled with how and when to tell people(friends, family, and otherwise) but thankfully, like you, I’ve found the courage to tell my supervisor and she has been amazingly supportive and understanding of the little stumbles I make as I progress towards my PhD. I’ve got a post on my own blog about “coming out” to people close to me, if you’re interested. I think people need to know that it’s okay to be honest and that the honesty is NOT always followed by prejudice or discrimination. Thanks for strengthening that message with one more story of success!
L.S.
Thanks, L – I can only imagine having to tell others of schizophrenia. It seems to be the most stigmatized & misunderstood mental illness I’ve encountered. Props to you have for having the guts to tell the people in your life – I hope they appreciate how much trust you have in them.
What a gift you have given us with your blog. It is pretty amazing how you have accepted your illness & have been able to come to a place to be able to tell someone about it.
Thanks! I wouldn’t say I’ve completely rocked the acceptance thing, but I’m working on it. I figured at some point I have to accept it enough to get help when I need it, right?
Yes, right. Very true.
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Really interesting blog and good luck for the future.
Thank you for sharing your problem with Bi-Polar. I was told in my 60′sthat I am one as well. It explained at lot of my life and not enough. The brain is fascinating.
Your writing is appearing to be a good outlet. Keep it up. You do it very well.
Isn’t it amazing how many answers it gives to questions you didn’t realize you were asking? Best of health to you – and I agree, the brain is fascinating!
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